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People really like running into me, huh?

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It's so funny... Just months ago the idea of railroading the catcher was practically unheard of in this league... now... no one wants to slide if I'm playing back there!

The real reason I'm making this post is to remind people (or more specifically, the person playing 1B) that they should be backing up the throw to home, becuase there have been a couple of railroad plays where the runner missed the plate and I was unable to locate the ball, but if there was another defender in the area, we may have been able to get the out..
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Uh... dude. If you get smaked by a guy, and the ball goes flying, you could have all 9 guys backing you up, but there won't be time to get the runner at home.
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Post by tallguy »

Surely there would be a chance the backup guy could get the out, albeit a slim one. There is certainly a lot less chance without the backup, so it's a valid call. 1st base is probably not going to be needed for anything else on a play like that, so why not? Say the ball takes a long spill from the catcher or goes past him and bounces far off the back board, meanwhile the catcher has been laid out by the runner anyway. Having no backup could allow another runner to come home from 3rd, whereas with a backup guy there, I don't think any of us would attempt it.
Seem like with all the errors we have now on overthrows and missed catches, we should all be thinking to backup more than we currently do.
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retep wrote:Uh... dude. If you get smaked by a guy, and the ball goes flying, you could have all 9 guys backing you up, but there won't be time to get the runner at home.
That's simply not true... half the time after a collision, the runner is just as disoriented as the catcher, and have to make a second pass to touch the plate, there were a couple of times that I almost was almost able to locate the ball and tag the runner before they reached the plate.
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Post by AntMoOAK »

Ken's point was deftly illustrated Sunday when Mike C. ran into Ken and we in the dugout had to scream for Mike to find the plate in the confusion that ensued from the collision. A couple more seconds of disorientation and Mike may very well have been tagged out.
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Backup won't help?!?

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Did he just write that to try to spite Ken? I rarely call ideas stupid, but I have no idea what retep is thinking in this situation. Of course back up will help increase the chance of getting runner out. How can backup not help?
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Post by retep »

The runner should find home plate. I'm not saying that people shouldn't back up the plays, but I am saying that the chances of getting the guy out at home are slim.

If you watch MLB, you will also see that many times the umpire doesn't take into account whether of not the runner touched home. All that matters is if the catcher has the ball. I know that's not what the rule says. I'm just telling it like the umps call it.

This obviously doesn't apply if the collision is made up the line, or otherwise not directly over home plate.

The only time (ignoring fuck-ups) a runner could be tagged out after a collision is if the collision is so powerful, that both players go flying.


I guess the only reason I mentioned this was that of all the plays we need to be backing up, this does not have the greatest return rates. Leftfielder need to cover throws to third, centerfields on throw to second, as well as outfielders backing up (and not stumbling over) each other.

And I am guilty of not doing all of those things!
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Troo Dat on the backup
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