Bonds takes the record... and Aaron

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Bonds takes the record... and Aaron

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So much for the speculation over what Aaron thought.
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I'm not so sure. A well-crafted, prepared public statement is rarely a reflection of someone's actual feelings.
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His statement was prepared a month ago with "negotiations." His absence speaks volumes.
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Oh please. Hank Aaron wouldn't do a damn thing he wanted. Have you read his comments to the press before? He repeatedly stated that he didn't wanna go because of the travel and the maddening press around him. He has always wished Bonds well, and merely wanted to avoid the fires storm.

He’s 73—I know my 73 year old god-father has a hard time traveling around, much less on a plane every 3 days. Maybe Aaron didn’t want to attend because he knows that no matter what he does, people are gonna turn it into an anti-Bonds thing, short of giving him a hug.

I’m gonna take Hank Aaron at his word, and not try to read anything into it. No one was expecting such a statement, and it would have been fine if he chose to stay out of it. I do not believe he’d go out of his way to make such a comment if he didn’t believe it. That’s why I disagree with you, Scott—he didn’t need to make that statement.
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what does this record really mean when both a-rod and/or pujols and/or cabrrera will destroy the record???

and it is so obvious that they are juicers!

thou a rod is a cheater he cheats in little ways like yelling HA!

and i dont believe that pujols is only 27, he just looks older like a solid 32 or so
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Joe shmoe wrote:what does this record really mean when both a-rod and/or pujols and/or cabrrera will destroy the record???

and it is so obvious that they are juicers!

thou a rod is a cheater he cheats in little ways like yelling HA!

and i dont believe that pujols is only 27, he just looks older like a solid 32 or so
Way to use reason and evidence.
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And I do know that you all will not believe his own words, but:


ATLANTA (AP) -- Hank Aaron might talk to Barry Bonds about the new home run record.

"Eventually, if I happen to see him somewhere, I'd probably say something to him," Aaron was quoted as saying on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Web site Thursday night. "To be honest, I'm as happy for him as anybody."

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Aaron was asleep at his home in Atlanta when Bonds hit his 756th home run Tuesday night to break Aaron's mark.

"It was 1 o'clock in the morning," Aaron told the newspaper. "Heck, I'm not going to sit up and watch a baseball game. It's just like I wasn't going to be able to travel all over the world to watch. It wasn't being disrespectful or anything. It's just a matter of, hey, the body needed to go to sleep."

Aaron previously recorded a video congratulating Bonds, and it was played on the scoreboard at AT&T Park in San Francisco.

"I've gotten a lot of calls saying that was the right thing to do, and these were from people who know a little bit more about this situation than just the average person," Aaron said.

He heard from many people suggesting what he should do.

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"It really got to the point where a lot of people started wanting to give you advice about what you should do, and they didn't know what the hell the situation was," Aaron was quoted as saying. "I mean, these were people that you had been knowing for a long time, but they couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting involved in this thing. Then they would come forward and say things like, 'Well, you need to do this. You need to do that.' They wanted to give you all of this advice, and they didn't know what was all involved in it, really.

"That's the thing that really bothers you. Friends that you've had a long time are all of a sudden coming forth and telling you things like, 'Well, I don't understand why you aren't making comments, or why aren't you doing blah, blah, blah?' Well, you know what? You're not supposed to understand any of it, because you're not in it."
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double post, whoops
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Your hyper-defensive attitude displayed in your remarks is really tiresome, Peter. "oh please" , etc. Sounds like typical partisanship, I'm not even a Bonds hater... give me a break.
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Baseball=Life wrote:Your hyper-defensive attitude displayed in your remarks is really tiresome, Peter. "oh please" , etc. Sounds like typical partisanship, I'm not even a Bonds hater... give me a break.
Fair enough. But there is a "guilty until proven innocent" which has frankly been equally tiresome. And I know you're not a "hater," which made your rejection of the statement that much more exasperating, a sorta, "Oh, no! Not Scott too!" kind of feeling.

But sine you don't approve of prepared thoughts, what do you think of his comments to the Associated Press?
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Thanks... his AP comments suggest to me that his feelings are unknown at best. It sounds like he'd prefer to not be asked about this stuff. It's sort of like Selig's position now... it's a no-win scenario. Support or defend Bonds and you're an accomplice to a cheater. Criticize and you're joining the severe critics (who ignore opponents' cheating) before the courts are done on the issue. It's too bad this wasn't dealt with (issue-wise) 10-15 years ago. We'd be in such a better position now, we'd at least feel more informed. I love watching Bonds, and I think the fact that the vast majority of people getting busted are pitchers says that, if anything, any cheating by Bonds only leveled the playing field.
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